benedict was wonderful at initiating reforms. over the last ten years we have seen a great many advances, especially in the church in the united states, but certainly reforms need to continue. the real story is the excitement you see month young people for the church. at the end of the day it's about goodness and truth and beauty, and the church has 0 the courage to stand for those things in the face of an often isolating and confusing world. >> shepard: can the church in rome handle a black orlet continue pope? >> absolutely. thick we're definitely ready for it. it's almost jarring to hear put in those terms because the church is growing by leaps and bounds in the global south. we're calling not somebody from a particular place or race. we're talling for someone who is an apostle for jesus christ, who lives our faith. that's what people are looking for,. >> shepard: great see you. the guy in charge of safety at bp says the systems that allowed an explosion that killed 121 -- 11 people were not an absolute failure. so how did the